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What is the Christian response and responsibility to LGBTQ+ people? In today's divisive landscape, host Brian Nietzel explores this vital question with key individuals, churches, and organizations moving toward a compassionate, inclusive posture that can bring healing to a community historically wounded by religion. Whether conservative or progressive in your beliefs, Brian elevates the conversation, helping us find our Christian common ground in loving our LGBTQ+ neighbors.
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Episodes

Saturday Nov 29, 2025
S2E7 Sides ABXY and Not Taking Sides
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
This episode explores sides A,B,X, and Y, which represent the diverse theological positions on same-sex relationships. Brian is joined by Justin Lee and Gregory Coles, two thought-leaders representing differing theological positions, yet modeling unity and collaboration in a manner desperately needed today.

Saturday Nov 29, 2025
S2E6 Exodus Shutdown, 10 Years Later
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
This episode features emotional and difficult subject matter, as we explore the history and impact of ex-gay ideology and conversion therapy. Brian is joined by Alan Chambers (past president of Exodus International) and licensed therapist Candice Czubernat, who bring professional and personal expertise with many in the LGBTQ+ community who have experienced harm from conversion therapy.

Saturday Nov 29, 2025
S2E5 The Christian Response to Transgender People, Part 2
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
Brian is joined by Mark Wingfield, executive director and publisher of Baptist News Global. Years ago Mark's post "7 Things I'm Learning About Transgender Persons" went immediately viral with over 1 million views, launching Mark into becoming an influential advocate and pastor to the transgender community.

Saturday Nov 29, 2025
S2E4 The Christian Response to Transgender People, Part 1
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
Learning first-hand of transgender real-lived experiences can be transformative, and perhaps the only way to elevate the public discourse from "issues" to being about people. Brian is joined by Grace Thomas and Lucas Hall, two Christian pioneers in the Trans community who share their harrowing, beautiful journeys.

Saturday Nov 29, 2025
S2E3 God & The Gay Christian, 10 Years Later
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
This episode features an informative and fascinating discussion with Matthew Vines, the author of the best-seller God & The Gay Christian. Matthew is a true pioneer who brings a sound biblical case for same-sex relationships. A decade after this game-changing book's release, it's impact along with his organization The Reformation Project remain as relevant as ever.

Saturday Nov 29, 2025
S2E2 1946 The Movie, Behind the Scenes
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
What if the word homosexual was never meant to be in the Bible? This episode features a striking conversation with the director and one of the lead researches of the multi-award winning documentary 1946: The Movie. Brian is joined by film producer Rocky Roggio and author & speaker Kathy Baldock.

Saturday Nov 29, 2025
S2E1 The Long Game
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
Saturday Nov 29, 2025
Welcome to Making Things Right Season 2! This episode features a live recording from the national conference of Q Christian Fellowship, a key organization that serves the full diversity of the LGBTQ+ community and their allies. Brian is joined by Brit Barron, Grace Thomas, Bill White, and Danny Cortez, all impactful leaders in "The Long Game" of LGBTQ+ reform in the Christian Church.

Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
Trailer: Making Things Right, The Podcast
Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
Season One of the Making Things Right podcast brings Brian's white paper on Christian-LGBTQ matters to life through real conversations. In this series, you’ll hear collaborative conversations where friends and thought-leaders representing varied perspectives gather with a common purpose: to share and listen, to find new empathy, and to serve the LGBTQ+ community. These conversations will provide insights and ideas to help you find your place at the table and your unique role in making things right.
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Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
S1E1 What Matters Most
Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
Making Things Right with the LGBTQ+ Community. The kick-off episode! B.T. Harman joins Brian to introduce and discuss the key concepts of "Making Things Right" and set the stage for this podcast series.
Guest: B.T. Harman

Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
S1E2 Three Chapters
Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
Brian's Story. A deeply personal episode where Brian's 30-year friend Sara interviews him on the chapters of his life and the evolution of his faith, with Sara's observations as she walked alongside.
Guest: Sara Renner
